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Following on from my previous post on this subject, I spoke with Dave at Ametech at some length about my offer to him, and about his product.
As he promised, he sent me the stuff to trial in my old beast and see how we got on.
I flushed the engine (with Ametech's own flush and a clean filter), then drained and refilled with a fresh filter, clean oil and Ametech, along with a bottle of their Oil Seal restore.
Initial impressions? Very positive. Only had a chance to cover about 20 miles so far but the initial thing both myself and my wife noticed when we got home was that she seemed much quieter.
No rattly tappet, no hunting idle (it seems more even, whereas before it was very prone to fluctuate when warm), and overall the whole engine "feels" a bit different - not earth-shakingly different, but different nonetheless, in a very positive way. AS I'm still bedding-in new brakes, I can't really comment on whether performance is improved or not, however that time will come
I promised I'd keep a "public" thread about this open, so please look out for regular updates - both good and bad as time wears on. |
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I'm still having nightmares from the last time this topic raised its head
Glad it worked for you though
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| Andys525iTouring wrote: |
| Only had a chance to cover about 20 miles so far but the initial thing both myself and my wife noticed when we got home was that she seemed much quieter. |
Some manufacturers actually specify a thicker oil for old/high mileage engines to compensate for the wear that makes them noisier. Odds are that switching to 15w50 from 10w40 would have the same effect as this stuff. |
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Andys525iTouring
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Well, here we are, some 2,000 miles on and what can I say?
FANTASTIC PRODUCT!!
Fuel economy's improved - on a recent run to Somerset, I saw 38mpg, without taking it steady. Engine smoothness has improved - the engine is noticeably quieter and smoother - I think it's a little more "pokey" but that could just be my perception. No more rattly tappet on hot idle, either.
I had her MOT'd yesterday, and I think the emissions results proved this stuff's worth in my mind - last year HC was 126ppm, this year it was just 23!! CO was 0.03%!. Remember, this is a 16-year old lump with 182,000+ on the clock, original cat and original O2 sensor.
To answer the big question - is it any good, will it work for me?
YES, in a nutshell. IF your engine, like mine, was getting tired, and has no major mechanical problems (this stuff is good, but can't work miracles), then yes, I believe it'll work - it could also work if used as part of a preventative maintenance plan where, say, one 250ml tin is used every 5-10000 miles to keep everything in top condition.
I've recommended it to a couple of people who know just how fussy I am over my cars, and they've gone out and bought some to trial under very different circumstances - one's a knackered old tractor which, if this stuff makes even the slightest difference will be nothing short of a miracle (it IS knackered....) and the other a tired old Fiesta that is being passed down to a mate's younger son. Both people know me of old and know that I wouldn't shoot my gob off about something unless I'd tried it first, and got a good result from it.
I'm going to continue using it at the 'preventative' does for the rest of the car's life, that's for sure. It worked for me, and it could well work for you as well. I strongly recommend it. Forget the Sl**k's of this world, Ametech really works and you can notice the difference.
For all the cynics out there (of which I was one, until I tried it) this has been achieved solely by Ametech in my opinion - I always use the same oil, filters, plugs etc., so can be sure that the difference I'm feeling and noticing in the car is directly attributable to the only additional thing I've added to it this service - the Ametech additive. |
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| crombster wrote: |
I'm still having nightmares from the last time this topic raised its head
Glad it worked for you though
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NO open them up ..... no product is a miracle additive for a clapped out engine and cannot replace damaged / broken parts, but most additives will achieve good results when applied to engines suffering FAIR WEAR and tear normally through high mileage and not through neglect or abuse.
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Hmmm, I 'm on 106,000 miles and no complaints.
I regularly get 45MPg.
Where can this magical elixir be found and how much? |
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Hmmm, I 'm on 106,000 miles and no complaints.
I regularly get 45MPg.
Where can this magical elixir be found and how much? |
Hello Marconi.
No complaints ........ then why do you think you need it , I'm on a similar mileage to you on my 530D Touring and like yourself have no issues that warrant any additives.
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| The big test of whether this is anything other than an oil thickener is to do an oil change without Ametech and see if the engine goes back to its old ways. If it does one may as well just put thicker oil in instead. |
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That was exactly my intention at the next service - not to use Ametech this time and see if the engine reverts.
I suspect that it will, but over a period of time as the Ametech wears off - I'll post further and let you know. |
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Why do I need it?...preventitive maintenance.
With care and repair as required, I intend taking my 525Dse around the clock for another waltz.
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| Andys525iTouring wrote: |
Well, here we are, some 2,000 miles on and what can I say?
FANTASTIC PRODUCT!!
Fuel economy's improved - on a recent run to Somerset, I saw 38mpg, without taking it steady. Engine smoothness has improved - the engine is noticeably quieter and smoother - I think it's a little more "pokey" but that could just be my perception. No more rattly tappet on hot idle, either.
I had her MOT'd yesterday, and I think the emissions results proved this stuff's worth in my mind - last year HC was 126ppm, this year it was just 23!! CO was 0.03%!. Remember, this is a 16-year old lump with 182,000+ on the clock, original cat and original O2 sensor.
To answer the big question - is it any good, will it work for me?
YES, in a nutshell. IF your engine, like mine, was getting tired, and has no major mechanical problems (this stuff is good, but can't work miracles), then yes, I believe it'll work - it could also work if used as part of a preventative maintenance plan where, say, one 250ml tin is used every 5-10000 miles to keep everything in top condition.
I've recommended it to a couple of people who know just how fussy I am over my cars, and they've gone out and bought some to trial under very different circumstances - one's a knackered old tractor which, if this stuff makes even the slightest difference will be nothing short of a miracle (it IS knackered....) and the other a tired old Fiesta that is being passed down to a mate's younger son. Both people know me of old and know that I wouldn't shoot my gob off about something unless I'd tried it first, and got a good result from it.
I'm going to continue using it at the 'preventative' does for the rest of the car's life, that's for sure. It worked for me, and it could well work for you as well. I strongly recommend it. Forget the Sl**k's of this world, Ametech really works and you can notice the difference.
For all the cynics out there (of which I was one, until I tried it) this has been achieved solely by Ametech in my opinion - I always use the same oil, filters, plugs etc., so can be sure that the difference I'm feeling and noticing in the car is directly attributable to the only additional thing I've added to it this service - the Ametech additive. |
Hi Andy this is all good news. Im so glad you compared old and new HC and CO. Other forum members are reporting 45mpg with diesel so could you clarify that this is in fact a 2.5l 6cyl petrol engined estate that is now getting 38mpg? yes i agree you should now do an oil change to see if it is just thick oil or whether RESTORE particles have remetalized the bores. thanks. dave |
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| RESTORE particles have remetalized the bores. |
Sorry, but that just sounds like marketing speak with a few science sounding words chucked in to make it sound impressive.
Remetalize, what do you think the bores have changed to chocolate fudge cake?
Have you got the distribution rights as well for snake oil? |
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| enginerestore wrote: |
| RESTORE particles have remetalized the bores. |
Sorry, but that just sounds like marketing speak with a few science sounding words chucked in to make it sound impressive.
Remetalize, what do you think the bores have changed to chocolate fudge cake?
Have you got the distribution rights as well for snake oil? |
if you have a few moments this is what we call remetalization of cylinder bores:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ocqg7j4g |
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| enginerestore wrote: |
| RESTORE particles have remetalized the bores. |
Sorry, but that just sounds like marketing speak with a few science sounding words chucked in to make it sound impressive.
Remetalize, what do you think the bores have changed to chocolate fudge cake?
Have you got the distribution rights as well for snake oil? |
if you have a few moments this is what we call remetalization of cylinder bores:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ocqg7j4g |
Yes pretty pictures, interesting the compression test plot, is this a product that you have to keep using, or is it a one use product. There is no explanation on that as to how it actually works, ionic transfer etc. Why do people selling products to renovate worn engines always show racing cars, they use new engines with low mileage and receive very frequent servicing. |
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| RESTORE particles have remetalized the bores. |
Sorry, but that just sounds like marketing speak with a few science sounding words chucked in to make it sound impressive.
Remetalize, what do you think the bores have changed to chocolate fudge cake?
Have you got the distribution rights as well for snake oil? |
if you have a few moments this is what we call remetalization of cylinder bores:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ocqg7j4g |
Yes pretty pictures, interesting the compression test plot, is this a product that you have to keep using, or is it a one use product. There is no explanation on that as to how it actually works, ionic transfer etc. Why do people selling products to renovate worn engines always show racing cars, they use new engines with low mileage and receive very frequent servicing. |
here are some explanations which hopefully will answer your questions:
http://www.americantechnology.co.uk/faqscomon-probems-3-w.asp
thanks |
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Wow that is quite possibly the worst video I have ever seen and is nothing more then a poitnless marketing video without any real scientific backing, I especially like the comment that says restore does not fill in the honing lines only vertical scores, how?? is it some kind of nano technology that can tell the difference between vertical and diagonal lines, give me a break. I find it funny that no one mentioned the fact that when Andy put the magic treatment in he said he flushed the engine, this alone on many old tired cars would have the effects described. As cars age rings and seals get gunked up sometimes a flush with engine flush can unstick these and clear out lifters reducing tappet noise, hence car will be cleaner, quieter and more effecient. Think I am to watch the discovery channnel to learn about this new science of remetalizing, any one want to try my new re-fasterizer it will make your 400,000 mile car faster then it was when new....... |
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| any one want to try my new re-fasterizer it will make your 400,000 mile car faster then it was when new....... |
yes please I will pay with it from my new found wealth from re-financing  |
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Wow that is quite possibly the worst video I have ever seen and is nothing more then a poitnless marketing video without any real scientific backing, I especially like the comment that says restore does not fill in the honing lines only vertical scores, how?? is it some kind of nano technology that can tell the difference between vertical and diagonal lines, give me a break. I find it funny that no one mentioned the fact that when Andy put the magic treatment in he said he flushed the engine, this alone on many old tired cars would have the effects described. As cars age rings and seals get gunked up sometimes a flush with engine flush can unstick these and clear out lifters reducing tappet noise, hence car will be cleaner, quieter and more effecient. Think I am to watch the discovery channnel to learn about this new science of remetalizing, any one want to try my new re-fasterizer it will make your 400,000 mile car faster then it was when new....... |
This is a recent discussion on the Ford Probe Club UK forum
http://www.ukpoc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3465&highlight=ametech |
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