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320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

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320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby tipper » Thu, 01 May 2008 15:09:35 UTC

Hi, New boy here just looking at buying a BMW for the first time and looking forward to it.
Can you help me with a couple of relatively simple questions?
I test drove a 2008 320d and all info I have been given shows it to be 177bhp with an extremely low CO2 figure of 146 for the auto box.
What I am looking at is a 1 year old 2007 (4/07 reg) car which the DVLA details say is 189 CO2.
Whilst small in the scheme of things it will be a big difference in road tax in the future. Can anyone advise when the latest engine was first fitted to the 320d?
Also I note a big issue over 320d inlet flap failures. Is this a problem on the 177bhp engine as well or just the earlier ones?
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Postby Peter » Thu, 01 May 2008 15:16:08 UTC

Hi and welcome.

Came with Efficient Dynamics models, from September build 2007, there is an exact date on here somewhere.

Swirl flap issue should have been resolved in 2005 with beefed up parts, but who knows, until we get a historical viewpoint. Keep the warranty going... it's one way to keep peace of mind.


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Postby Olli » Thu, 01 May 2008 15:20:17 UTC

As Peter says, from September manufacturing (not registration)

So all 07 registered cars still are the old values, while some of the 57 reg's cars might still be the same.
Make sure you check the manufacturing date and get the efficient dynamics package confirmed
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Postby tinka » Thu, 01 May 2008 17:04:55 UTC

sounds like a 163bhp model,mine's a nov/06 163bhp auto and the c02 is 179
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Postby rocketron » Thu, 01 May 2008 17:06:29 UTC

ARE YOU sure that its 189 co2? My 2006 320d auto is 179 co2, and manual is around the 150 mark. The ED models are certainly very efficient, I noticed in Autoexpress that the ED 335d auto is around the same CO2 as my 320d. The new ED 320d's are in the £35 road tax bracket which is really impressive for a car of that size/weight and performance.
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Postby tipper » Thu, 01 May 2008 18:32:51 UTC

Thanks for the dates.
I've just checked again and the DVLA vehicle check page for the reg no of the car I'm looking at gives 184g/Km not 189 as I stated. However the tax Band is E instead of C. As I said before this is small in terms of the cost of the car but will make a difference over the coming years.
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Postby gizze » Thu, 01 May 2008 21:15:47 UTC

Definitely hold out for an ED model, the extra MPG will outweigh any extra finance cost.

I had a 120d auto and that returned around 25% less and than our 320d auto ED sport touring, and that is a lighter car.
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Postby harrydavy » Fri, 02 May 2008 10:35:19 UTC

Hi, I'm just into the 5th day of ownership of my 2008 (57 plate) 320d M Sport auto and to say I'm thrilled is an understatement! I'm comfortably achieving 48mpg around town which compared to my last car (Lexus IS220d SE) is a huge improvement (28-31mpg). I cover 30-40k pa so fuel cost is a very big deal! So far so fab!!
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Postby AlanQS » Sun, 04 May 2008 00:00:00 UTC

AN easy way of seeing if it is an ED engine is to find out if it has auto start/stop. If it doesn't, it is the older engine with the higher CO2 rating.
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Postby gizze » Sun, 04 May 2008 00:06:32 UTC

Yeah but he wants and auto and that doesn't heave it......yet.
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Postby ScottC25 » Sun, 04 May 2008 07:26:18 UTC

Does anyone know whether the Alpina D3 is an ED engine or not??

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Postby big_peaches » Sun, 04 May 2008 09:09:05 UTC

i pay 90 pound tax with it been post sep 2007 :)
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320d 177hp engine first fitted

Postby jade » Sun, 11 May 2008 10:22:33 UTC

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This car was purchased in July 2007 with a build date of May 2007.........and is definatly an ED engine complete with start stop..also getting about 46mpg round town.....javascript:emoticon(':D')



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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby ned kelly » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:42:04 UTC

hi all,

I have just joined tonight. I am due to buy a 320d M sport manual tomorrow afternoon. It was advertised as 2007 (07). The dealer told me that it was 163bhp but when I was getting an insurance quote they said it is 177 bhp. I phoned the dealer & he agreed. He said it has stop start as well. I love the car but I am not convinced by his knowledge.

This should be my first bm & I am not up to speed with 320d bhp.

I have checked various sites but am still confused.

Can anyone enlighted me on the following Q's: 1. Is above model 163bhp or 177 bhp? 2. Does it tell you on the manual or can I check the chasis? 3. Has above model stop start (efficient dynamics) & when was it introduced? 4. Can you have a 177bhp without efficient dynamics? 5. Is there any way of checking if car was damaged?



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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby gizze » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:18:06 UTC

1, 2, 3. If it has stop/start then it is 177bhp, and that is the easiest way to tell, you will have a button next to the park button just below the radio to turn it on/off. The dealer will tell you as he can see straight away. However I thought that ED started with 57 plates and from Sept. 2007 build onwards, I would find out for sure, massive difference on economy between the two. Hold on, Is this a main dealer??? Obviously a main dealer would know. Ask for the KW power of the car, it is in the front of the service book.
4. No.
5. I presume it has been HPI'd by yourself if not a main dealer?? Also ask them if it has been damage repaired, if you don't ask you have no comeback, and if it isn't from a main dealer do an HPI yourself, BMW will do one for you, an indy may have his fingers crossed you don't do one. £5 is not much when you think about it.
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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby ned kelly » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:49:52 UTC

Thanks for your comprehensive reply. Dealer is independant. He said his wife owned car & they have a cherished number plate on it.
When you mean park button, is that an electronic handbrake button? I know from test drive that car has ordinary handbrake lever.
I will ask him to check the tax book re KW power.
Have you a contact number/site re HPI?
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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby gizze » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:25:23 UTC

Have a look at this pic, the Park Distance button, to turn off the bleeping and the stop/start button is shown...

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Just search HPI in google and go with whoever is offering a deal.
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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby gizze » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:30:25 UTC

Actually that is not the button, but it is in that section down the bottom in the middle when fitted, this is an auto so doesn't have stop/start.
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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby ned kelly » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:41:34 UTC

What might help tonight is if anyone knows: 1. does 177bhp efficient dynamics have ordinary handbrake? 2. How does 163bhp compare with 177bhp in annual road tax bill, fuel economy & relaibility?
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Re: 320d 177bhp low CO2 engine - when first fitted?

Postby gizze » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 20:56:57 UTC

They all do, the button for parking is turn off the parking sensors when they bleep.

163bhp will get around 30-42mpg, the 177 will get around 40-60mpg.

I have had both and that is over at least a year and 15k miles.

I averaged 34mpg in the 163 and 44mpg in the 177.


Reliability is the same, both good.

Road tax not sure?
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