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Is 3 child seats in the back of a 5 series realistic?

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Is 3 child seats in the back of a 5 series realistic?

Postby Jonesey » Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:42:00 UTC

I'm awaiting the arrival of my 3rd sprog, and have come to the realisation that 3 car seats in the back of my A4 isn't going to work on a regular basis.
I'm therefore looking for a new motor and the 5 series (530d) is top of the list as i'd rather avoid the mpv / 4x4 options.
Does anyone have any experience / advice on this ? I realise there probably isn't much room to spare but i'm desperate to hold on to some sort of sporty motor!
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Postby E39mad » Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:05:41 UTC

Assuming you are considering the latest 5's - E60/61. I have the forerunner and it is impossible to put three kids seats side by side more so if using the Isofix points. Should be more room in the later 5's but might be a case of finding a particularly narrow seat to fit in the middle where the seat belt to buckle distance is much shorter. Never looked into it but never seen one.

Have to say if we had another (3rd child), which I have no intention of despite what Mrs Mad says :wink: , would definately go for 3 rows of seats to stop the squabbling and keep some peace on long hauls. New 308SW or an S Max is your best bet as drivers cars if unfortunately you come to same conclusion!
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Postby jallen » Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:19:37 UTC

I reckon it would be possible on a 5 series with integrated booster seats.

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Postby H » Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:24:59 UTC

You may fit 3 "baby" seats across (although the middle seat doesn't feel very safe) your problems will start when they are all in booster seats, which for some reason all have built in arm rests meaning you would never get all three in at the same time. Once your kids reach 135cm in height or 12yrs they can use adult seat belts.
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Postby zayd55 » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:23:02 UTC

I've got three kids and they can all fit in the back row of my e39.

Eldest who is over 135cm sits in the middle. The 2 year old sits on one side in a very bulky child seat and the other one sits in a booster seat fitted with a backrest.

They're not squashed in at all with this arrangement but do squable as they are all boys.
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Postby E39mad » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:44:30 UTC

jallen wrote:I reckon it would be possible on a 5 series with integrated booster seats.

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Don't think these are an option anymore since the E39 stopped production.
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Postby Jonesey » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:39:06 UTC

Thanks for all the input,
as they're all going to be <5 and the eldest is still in a booster with backrest I suspect i'll have to face the inevitable and succumb to an S-Max or similar.
I guess I've got to accept that family journeys won't be quite the same for a while, and cheer myself up with something sportier for the daily commute!
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Postby agh » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:13:08 UTC

Jonesey wrote:Thanks for all the input,
as they're all going to be <5 and the eldest is still in a booster with backrest I suspect i'll have to face the inevitable and succumb to an S-Max or similar.
I guess I've got to accept that family journeys won't be quite the same for a while, and cheer myself up with something sportier for the daily commute!


Probably a more cost effective way to do it, get the "bus" for your wife and an E92 or something for yourself.
Problem with situations like this is you really want difference cars for different circumstances.
Commuting tool E92 or a cheap run about
Family holidays a nice E60 touring
Day to day family driving a mid sized MPV easier to park and get kids in and out of than an E60


My wife keeps going on a about a third child too :roll:
Much as I adore our 2 boys I'm tired, had enough of the not so nice bits of babies and toddlers.
... and then what would we do about cars, 3 series touring will never fit 3 in child seats.
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Postby skanna » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:00:04 UTC

I'm in exactly the same position. Two kids, 6 and 8 and a baby due this week! I have 2 E39s, a 528i, and 530i Sport. Both have been good, and I'm reluctant to change for a larger car. I was toying with the idea to remove the front passenger airbag, have the eldest boy in the front with the booster, second kid in the back and baby rear facing seat in the middle. The Mrs can sit at the back when we are all together, and have the baby seat in the front when she's on her own.

I think inevitably we will get a seven seater but I'm not keen on getting a people carrier. BMW don’t do seven seats. Mercedes have a 7 seater estate, as do Volvo and Audi. But these will have very little boot space if the two rear seats are used. The Volvo XC90 looks promising, even though it drives like a tractor. Still quite comfortable and about as economical as the 530i. I like the way the middle seat in the second row comes forward between the two front seats, so that a baby seat can be close to the driver, but still just behind.

Prices are falling so quickly that its worth waiting a couple of months. Went to a Ford garage and a salesman said second hand car prices are plummeting, especially large cars. 4x4s. He said some second hand cars are now losing £700-£800 a month in value, when they were only losing £200-£300 per month last year.
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Postby smarty156 » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:10:28 UTC

I have an E61 (Estate in case you don't know) and my wife has a Renault Scenic. We use the Scenic as a run around at the weekends as it's easier to get our nearly 3 year old son in and out. He can also see out of the windows better as they are lower on the Scenic than the 5.
Also, if you use the Isofix, the fixing points are a lot further away from the doors in the 5 than the Scenic. From a safety point this is great as the Britax seats we use (quite narrow compared to most) are almost touching the door armrest on the Scenic but are quite a long way off in the 5. The downside of that is you really can't get three seats across the back of the 5. It would even be an uncomfortable squeeze to have 2 seats in the back and someone in the middle not using a child seat (even a small person). There just isn't enough room.
I could try putting the seats in and measuring the gap in the middle if I remember tonight but I think it's a no-go. The seats are shaped in the back really to be a comfortable 4 seater with the fifth (middle rear) being for occasional use only. For this reason I don't think non-Isofix would be any better.
Best to take seats along to a BMW dealer and put them in to see.
On the other hand, my wife went out in the Scenic the other day with two car seats in the back (Isofix), a rear facing isofix baby seat in the front (there's a switch to turn off the airbag) and a small adult in the middle rear seat reasonably comfortably. I wouldn't want to drive the Scenic all the time and it's not great to drive at all but it does exactly what it says on the tin - it's a great midi-mpv for a small family.
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Postby E39mad » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:55:04 UTC

Skanna - I think the new X5 has a seven seat option but it is an expensive "people carrier" lol
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Postby Jonesey » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:03:15 UTC

[/quote] My wife keeps going on a about a third child too :roll:
Much as I adore our 2 boys I'm tired, had enough of the not so nice bits of babies and toddlers.
... and then what would we do about cars, 3 series touring will never fit 3 in child seats.[/quote]

Careful, keep your guard up! she'll bring you a nice bottle of wine, give you that look and before you know it you'll be in the same predicament as we are!

Skanna, not sure I could convince the missus to go in the back, you've clearly got better negotiating skills than me, and from Smarty's comments sounds like it would be a pretty tight squeeze.

Will give the seats a go at a bmw dealership but I suspect I'm off to mpv land
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Postby agh » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:46:40 UTC

There is not much choice for MPV's with 7 seats plus boot space at the same time. Friends of mine ended up with a Chrysler Grand Voyager, the alternative at the time being a more expensive Renault Espace which does not have sliding doors.
After that you into prohibitively expensive X5's X6's Land Rover Discoveries and the like.
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Postby k44ent » Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:38:29 UTC

Have a 7 year old, a 5 year old and a 3 week old and manage to get all three in the back of my E61. I put a blanket on the back seat to stop the seats marking the leather and to take out the dip in the seats. that way I can get the two outside seats a bit closer to the doors and the rearward facing baby seat fits nicely in the middle. I sometimes turn the front airbag off and one of the kids sits in the front. Had an E60 with comfort seats and that was a no no for three in the back hence the E61, th ejoys of having kids eh!!
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Postby smarty156 » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:08:06 UTC

k44ent wrote:Have a 7 year old, a 5 year old and a 3 week old and manage to get all three in the back of my E61. I put a blanket on the back seat to stop the seats marking the leather and to take out the dip in the seats. that way I can get the two outside seats a bit closer to the doors and the rearward facing baby seat fits nicely in the middle. I sometimes turn the front airbag off and one of the kids sits in the front. Had an E60 with comfort seats and that was a no no for three in the back hence the E61, th ejoys of having kids eh!!


How are the seat belts on the outer 2 seats when like that? Do they still fit in the right place on the car seats?

Also, how do you turn the airbag off? There isn't a switch is there?

Sounds like it's possible then with older children and no Isofix. If you want to use Isofix you're stuck as they go in a fixed position.

PS I bet you're back suffers when putting the baby seat in the middle!
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Postby smarty156 » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:22:10 UTC

One other thing I think is worth mentioning re children in the back.
The backs of the front seats are curved to allow more knee room for rear passengers. The trouble is I'm tall (6' 2") with very long legs so my seat needs to be virtually all the way back. That means the top of the driver's seat is too close to the child in the back (forward facing in a full child seat, not a booster seat) as their legs are at the right height to kick the seat back! This is my experience anyway.
We therefore have to put our little boy (who at nearly 3 admittedly has long legs like his Dad!) behind the passenger seat and my wife (who's quite short luckily) has her seat far enough forward so that he can't kick it. Either that or I make him take his shoes off when he's in my car!
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Postby agh » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:03:28 UTC

smarty156 wrote: Either that or I make him take his shoes off when he's in my car!

I'm 6ft tall, 3 year old in the back of an E91 with a seat back protector, it all fits and the back of my seat does not get scuffed or muddied.
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Postby k44ent » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:55:35 UTC

How are the seat belts on the outer 2 seats when like that? Do they still fit in the right place on the car seats?

Also, how do you turn the airbag off? There isn't a switch is there?

Sounds like it's possible then with older children and no Isofix. If you want to use Isofix you're stuck as they go in a fixed position.

PS I bet you're back suffers when putting the baby seat in the middle![/quote]

Seat belts on the outer seats fit fine, but yes if you used the isofix system only two in the back. I usually put the middle seat in first so no problem really. The front air bag can be turned off via a key switch in the glove box, not sure if this is on all E61's.
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Postby smarty156 » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:26:52 UTC

k44ent wrote:The front air bag can be turned off via a key switch in the glove box, not sure if this is on all E61's.


Ah, I think that's an option. Shame they don't fit that as standard - would be very useful.
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Postby jody1975 » Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:37:21 UTC

i also have 3 kids, 4 weeks, 21months, and 8 so need 3 seats. currently drive a merc ml with seven seats which is very handy but with rising running costs was thinking of purchasing a e39 touring . i know it would be a bit tight and hope its possible. going looking at the weekend without the kids but armed with 3 child seats.
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