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E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pics

Postby adamtabiner » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:46:13 UTC

I have just had the headlights off my 08 reg e61 lci 525 to replace headlights and angel eyes. And thought after doing quite a bit of research I had the correct angel eyes h8! Inc,uding the manual stating this. However when trying to fit the bulbs I cannot see a way that these will fit, see photos.

Can anyone help on this please and advise if they do fit in some way or the correct type of bulb / best bulb for angel

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See this link for photos.

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/74994-e61 ... ntry776790

http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f74 ... ost1033487
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:45:49 UTC

Oh dear this is so misleading and the manual doesn't help as for the lci cars I think it's generic :roll: So I am guessing you have halogen headlights which means although your car is an lci you will have the horrible brown cone type angel eye bulbs as below

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg4 ... mage-2.jpg

Theses can be replaced by this type of led

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg4 ... /image.jpg

The H8 bulbs seem to be fitted to lci cars with adaptive xenons only as my my previous pre lci 535 also had adaptive xenons but still had the horrible brown cone type angel eyes. The easiest way to tell is to try and remove the headlight back cover and shine a decent torch inside, you should then be able to see the brown plastic cone type.

Just send your H8 LEDs back if its any consolation your not the first to be caught out I am afraid :?
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby matt b 530d » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:53:02 UTC

Hi, can't see the pics, but If you have a small brown cone reflector with the bulb sealed inside it, then that's the LCI halogen set up. You can replace the bulb, but it involves cutting it out of the reflector unit. I just replaced one of mine this weekend, but with the standard sealed BMW reflector unit.

Have a look at this thread which might help, also there's loads of threads on here with examples of owners' various upgrades etc. Many have upgraded to after market LEDs with varying success, as getting a genuinely bright daytime result seems to be hard without the Xenon set up.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=142303&p=1175467&hilit=Angel+eye+bulb+identification#p1175467
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Postby matt b 530d » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:53:56 UTC

Look like we were both typing at the same time zoom :-)
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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:56:03 UTC

matt b 530d wrote:Look like we were both typing at the same time zoom :-)


Yep looks like it and I won this time..........for a change :lol:
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby adamtabiner » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:58:05 UTC

Hello. Yes I do have the brown cone type which does remove. I had the headlights out to replace all the bulbs! Gutted!!!

Do you know what bulb type the replacements are then so I can have a look about! Any recommendations for best brightness whiteness.???

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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:05:40 UTC

Check my pics the second link is the led type replacement unfortunately they don't go up very high on wattage 10w seems to be the highest as below

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-BMW-E39-E ... 43b2482cc6

You will never get them as bright as the new BMW type even the H8's don't go up that bright. So you may struggle to see them during the day especially in direct sunlight :cry:
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:45:25 UTC

I suffered your fate and done the job twice, so your not alone (I also had the brown cones)

I put 6w Cree LED's in
Overall pretty disappointed, however they look better than the old ones against HIds

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With HIds

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Sorry pictures taken with IPhone + bumper left in garage for the stealth look
One bulb easy enough, the second bulb was almost melted to the mounting and took several step backs and walks around the garage to get out
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby matt b 530d » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:54:33 UTC

snrbrtsn wrote:and took several step backs and walks around the garage to get out


He he :lol: love it, and been there, that BMW feeling !! :lol:
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby adamtabiner » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:34:26 UTC

Ok thanks folks! Is it worth the money then to upgrade? Looking at £50ish is that right? Maximum i can find is 10w as well.

Also anyone replaced the h7 dipped and main beam bulbs / any good results, bulb recommendations for a brighter xenon look?
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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:41:23 UTC

Osram Night breakers or Philips extreme are a good improvement check out ebay
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:47:57 UTC

I think (it's possibly just me) but the 10w are for the h8 replacement and not suitable for the cone type installation
When I looked (a week and a half ago) 6w was the brightest the bay had to offer +\- £50 but did see the Cree 10w ones but think they protrude too much so rather than get the wrong ones twice, I erred on the side of caution.

But I'd be curious to find out, undecided if worth the expense and hassle, though if updating the bulbs to brighter whiter units its more unison if there both the same colour


Ps
Amazon do them for £40 + free delivery :wink:
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:58:31 UTC

Have a read below:

These are not H8 replacements [:D]

Pair of BMW Angel Eye 10w 7000k White CREE LED Marker Bulbs
Compatible with:

The following cars should have one marker bulb on each side fitted for these LED markers to be suitable:
X5 E53 (2003-2007) equipped with OEM angel eyes
1 Series E87 equipped with OEM angel eyes (not suitable for E87 using H8 bulb)
5 Series E39 (2000 onwards) equipped with OEM angel eyes
5 Series E60/E61 (pre facelift/lci before March 2007 & not suitable for E60 using H8 bulb)
6 Series E63/E64 (pre facelift before September 2007)
7 Series E65/E66 equipped with angel eyes
IF your BMW has 4 wedge/capless/501/t10 bulbs (1 per ring) then please see here
IF your BMW uses a H8 bulb then please see here
IF this marker is not suitable for your BMW then please see our other marker bulbs here
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Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:05:46 UTC

Yeah

I looked at them but unsure is the LEd protrudes to far?
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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:13:06 UTC

snrbrtsn wrote:Yeah

I looked at them but unsure is the LEd protrudes to far?


They look the same or similar size to the ones I fitted on my previous 535d.


http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg4 ... /image.jpg
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Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:34:30 UTC

Tsk!
Now ordinarily I would be tempted, but I think I shall hold off until someone else tries them, thinking back the other thing that put me off was the fitting was the inline ballasts but now I'm making excuses

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-XENON-WHI ... 24b&_uhb=1
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Re: E61 lci angel eye bulb help!!!! Wrong one ordered see pi

Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:37:15 UTC

So to answer your question Adam

These are the ones for you

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10W-BMW-Angel ... e5e&_uhb=1

Different from the above post & only £ 43.29
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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:39:43 UTC

snrbrtsn wrote:Tsk!
Now ordinarily I would be tempted, but I think I shall hold off until someone else tries them, thinking back the other thing that put me off was the fitting was the inline ballasts but now I'm making excuses

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-XENON-WHI ... 24b&_uhb=1
I looked at and was put off by the picture halfway down


That's just an angled connector on the back of the original lamp, what inline ballasts that's old school ? Only find them on hid upgrades
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Postby bwmzoom » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:45:13 UTC

Mine never had inline ballasts and worked great just not that bright
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Postby snrbrtsn » Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:57:03 UTC

I shall stand corrected

I guess that silver thing inline is for the canbus error free then ??
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