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My M3 is seriously bad in the snow!

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My M3 is seriously bad in the snow!

Postby scotabroad » Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:51:47 UTC

Well its my first winter in my E36 '96 M3 and the first snow has shown its first weakness. I am a pretty good snow driver but even high gears, keeping the momentum up and feather touches on the gas do not help much. 4" of the wide stuff and it is struggling big time. Got home to North Wales tonight and its staying in the garage until the roads clear. By comaprison the wifes Zafira copes no problem. Last winter in the states 18" of snow and my subie legacy still cruised through it.

It is suprising how quick it will snap sideways, I am theorising with an LSD both wheels will spin in the snow causing no stability at the rear??
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Postby keelertravel » Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:54:26 UTC

Drove an E60 M5 to work the other day ni the snow, at 4:30 am in the morning. I was the first car on all the local roads on Epsom Downs and the car was scarier than the biggest ride at Alton Towers.

Wide tyres, all that power etc - not good on the white stuff...

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Postby GraemeB » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:57:50 UTC

Your Subaru Legacy would have been 4wd. An E36 M3 is rwd with very fat tyres and no electronic aids.
Are you not surprised there is a difference?
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Postby Mystic Sport » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:33:29 UTC

My M3 'without' any traction control enabled was some way better than my old 330i, the LSD made it far more predictable and hence controllable.
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Postby Olli » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:38:27 UTC

winter tyres and a bid of weight in the boot and you're half decently fine
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Postby scotabroad » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:57:24 UTC

GrahamB yes I did know that, I always was one for stating the obvious.

I did think about chucking some weight in the boot, I have a few heavy toolboxes I 'll give it a go..
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Postby GraemeB » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:21:22 UTC

I had a feelling you were :-)

I had a winter a good few years ago now in an E36 328i coupe which was OK on standard 205/60 R15 tyres.
That got traded for an A4 quattro (that was a mistake) which ran on 225/45 R17 tyres. The 4wd ensured it went but it still slid about on the fat tyres...
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Postby MikeS » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:50:24 UTC

Yes, it is a constant comment from my wife, that my 330d stays in the garage as soon as there is any snow, I can get off my drive no problem, but that's it, I can't get up the hill outside my property, so I don't even try now!
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Postby scotabroad » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:24:33 UTC

I got through the snow and slush this morning to experiment with the extra weight and it does help quite a bit but its comparing totally useless to poor. For comparison I took the Zafira out straight after and it was absolutely no problem.

Its all melting now anyway, perhaps some will be left tommorrow for sledging :)
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Postby l'poolstu » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:49:28 UTC

How about this for some weight in the boot - 130 kilos of French Mastiff's

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Postby scotabroad » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:51:16 UTC

:lol:
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Postby andysat » Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:55:11 UTC

Are the mastiffs BMWs new alarm option??? :lol:
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Postby ajbsmirnoff » Sun, 11 Feb 2007 03:18:00 UTC

andysat wrote:Are the mastiffs BMWs new alarm option??? :lol:


They look 'aftermarket' rather than 'factory fit'
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