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330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:16:39 UTC

Hi All,

I need your help and expertise to explain this;

I have 330d Sport Auto (2002) and I have a strange issue when accelerating from a constant speed between 65-70 MPH I sometimes get a rumble vibration noise that seems to be coming from rear of the car. It sounds like driving over a rumble strip something similar to a deep bass tone which lasts between 1-2 seconds. If I am accelerating continuously from any other constant speed to 70mph and beyond then there is no issue :?: My car has had the gearbox reconditioned approximately 5 months ago, and therefore I guess eliminating the gearbox oil change suggestions. I have been investigating on the forum and have come across the torque convertor as a possible culprit as well as the propshaft donut (guibo) and the differential? Which one ofthese is the likely candidate?Could it be anything else, any sugestions would be most welcome!

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby LittleNicky » Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:50:19 UTC

sounds like coil pack but god knows..... get it on a diagnostic bud


oh - its a diesel... erm, diff mount? prop, or doughnut on prop - get it on a ramp, and get ecu checked for faults bud
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby sye » Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:14:09 UTC

get under the car and have a look at the prop donut to see if its perished the diesels have more toque than the petrol's and are more prone to this, its not an expensive fix.
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:09:05 UTC

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input, I am glad both of you have mentioned the propshaft donut as I was hoping that it is this and hopefully not the torque convertor! I will get it checked out right away.......Oh yes there was one point I forgot to mention I had to put it throught the MOT a month ago and both rear tyres were shot. The fronts were ok therefore I didn't want to spend on brand new tyres as I wanted to change to a softer compund all round (had pirelli p-zeros all round). I decided to go for part worn tyres just to pass the MOT and then change all 4 later. Now the only tyres I could find in Slough of 255/35 was a run flat Bridgestone and a non run flat Marangoni.....due to the different coumpunds and treads would this have a bearing :?: The reason I ask is I was reading a thread which someone was describing a similar issue and the question regarding the different treads came up? While mine has different treads and coumpunds. I wouldn't think this would cause an issue....but I could be wrong.

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby kalv » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:06:13 UTC

i'd always keep the same tyre make/compound on the same axel.. preferably same tyres all way round.. so that definately ain't going to help.. but i still believe the doughnut is your problem.. had same issue on mine.. ended up getting one from a 730d from a bmw scrappie for about £30 I think... swapped em over and sorted.. my old one was nailed..

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby sye » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:33:49 UTC

I'd advise you keep matching Tyres on the same axel also , you from Slough I'm only up the road in Heathrow ..
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby rog_82 » Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:30:10 UTC

1 runflat & 1 non-runflat on the same axle? Dangerous imo! Possibly even illegal, as you're mixing tyres of different construction.
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:15:59 UTC

kalv wrote:i'd always keep the same tyre make/compound on the same axel.. preferably same tyres all way round.. so that definately ain't going to help.. but i still believe the doughnut is your problem.. had same issue on mine.. ended up getting one from a 730d from a bmw scrappie for about £30 I think... swapped em over and sorted.. my old one was nailed..

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Hi Kalv,

Aplogies for the late response I have been away, thanks very much for the screenshot that will prove useful when asking the garage to look at the propshaft donut :) . Regarding the tyres, I hear your thinking and will get them sorted straight after the propshaft donut. The plan was to get the wheels refurbished first and then change the rubber all round....change of plans I guess :?

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:17:30 UTC

rog_82 wrote:1 runflat & 1 non-runflat on the same axle? Dangerous imo! Possibly even illegal, as you're mixing tyres of different construction.


Hi Rog_82,

I will get them sorted straight after the propshaft donut. The plan was to get the wheels refurbished first and then change the rubber all round....change of plans I guess :?

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:19:34 UTC

sye wrote:I'd advise you keep matching Tyres on the same axel also , you from Slough I'm only up the road in Heathrow ..


Hi Sye,

Thanks for the offer, I will deffinitely be calling on your advice/help if it turns out not to be the propshaft donut. Is there anything else it could be?

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 10:44:54 UTC

Hi All,

Just to give you an update, the car is in the garage so hopefully will update you on the diagnosis. After describing the issue and reconmendations from you guys regarding the propshaft donut the mechanic also thought that this sounnds like the culprit.......but will find out soon.

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:57:59 UTC

So got the report back......propshaft donut is ok, no obvious signs of significant wear/damage....so the only other point is the different tyre compounds on the rear?.....but I am not confident that this is the issue? :?
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby kalv » Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:59:17 UTC

the rumble could also be caused by a sticking caliper on the rear brakes...
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:12:29 UTC

kalv wrote:the rumble could also be caused by a sticking caliper on the rear brakes...


Hi Kalv,

Good point.....didn't think of that?

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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby teddybare » Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:42:17 UTC

hey naz
Dont forget the bearing in the middle of the prop too, my donut got replaced last week and the bearing had caused the tearing in the rubber aswell as the aded Torque i have with a modified engine.
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby kalv » Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:36:26 UTC

as above.. make sure u replace the bearing if u do the doughnut....
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:39:29 UTC

The garaged checked all the above and say's he cannot see anything wrong!.......i'm now thinking whether its the 1RF and 1 non-RF tyre on the rears which could be causing the issue?......but why during cruising between 65-70 mph and then flooring it?.....I would expect the issue to occur at any cruising speed then booting?
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby jayakrishnanv » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:38:30 UTC

In my last E46 the propshaft rubber was gone. But from outside it was looking fine. Till the time it was taken out. Also the center support bearing was having issues and the propshaft is running thru the same which was giving the humming sound. As mentioned above its not a costly part. It worked out to some £130 including labour for both of them done in a local indy. Also check for the heat shields or the brear brake dust protectors to be loose as well. Hope this helps
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Re: RE: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Tue, 04 Oct 2011 11:15:26 UTC

jayakrishnanv wrote:In my last E46 the propshaft rubber was gone. But from outside it was looking fine. Till the time it was taken out. Also the center support bearing was having issues and the propshaft is running thru the same which was giving the humming sound. As mentioned above its not a costly part. It worked out to some £130 including labour for both of them done in a local indy. Also check for the heat shields or the brear brake dust protectors to be loose as well. Hope this helps



Hi Jay,

Thank you for the feedback.... I am thinking that I will infact just go ahead and follow your advice and change the propshaft donut, and check the other items that you have mentiojed above...thanks again, I will update as to the outcome when I get this done....could be 2 weeks though!

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Re: 330d Rumble vibration on acceleration!

Postby naz1 » Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:10:59 UTC

Hi Guys,

Just thought I would give an update on the current situation as I have been travelling alot due to work and didn't get much chance to investigate the issue. Well on arriving back from Europe this Friday i decided to change all the tyres as I knew this had to be done as the current ctyres where of either differenct compounds or tread patterns. Did this on Saturday and the issue is still present. Therefore will now go down the route of thoroughly investigating the Prop-shaft rubber donut...etc.

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