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Postby 330d_dan » Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:49:05 UTC

Just after some opinions and thoughts on which offers the best results, a tuning box or a remap.

My 330d has a TuniT box fitted (was on when I got it, so I don't really know what a std 330d is like) and I am very pleased with it (apart from it being quite thirsty) but I was wondering was it worth getting it remapped and removing the box...??

Does a remap offer a more efficient increase than a box?

Just wondered what peoples thoughts were on this.
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Postby agh » Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:04:43 UTC

Generally you should see a fuel consumption improvement and performance improvement with a re-map and even a decent tuning box.
Conventional wisdom is that re-map a better more complete solution, but I've been hearing really good things about Spider tuning boxes lately. All tuning boxes are not the same!
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Postby eca02apc » Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:51:11 UTC

Quite right agh!, not all tuning boxes are the same BUT on the whole a remap offers a better solution. Concerns regarding tuning boxes tend to stem from overfueling and overboosting. It's your choice, but I would always favour a remap!
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Postby tinka » Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:25:39 UTC

just been on the spider website,sounds quite good,also the benefit of a tuning box is is you can remove it from the car,if you sell it or for insurance reasons,for the 320d it takes it up to 195bhp,not bad.
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Postby 320td » Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:49:10 UTC

Hi all,

I'll be getting delivery of my 520d M sport next Friday and thinking of chipping it, its the 177bhp engine, any ideas? I went on Ebay and this bloke was selling a Raid HP chip for £385 but I'm not sure I should spend this much on a little black box.

any help will be appreciated, I would pref something I can take out the car when it goes in for services etc...
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Postby agh » Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:05:57 UTC

Last I heard the new ECU with these 177bhp engines presented a new challenge to re-mappers which they have not cracked.... yet. Not sure if it was encryption of something else, there is a thread here somewhere with details.
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Postby 320td » Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:11:58 UTC

Thanks mate. I will look around for it. Shame cos I'm sure the 177 can be pushed to around 220.
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Postby tinka » Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:24:34 UTC

spider have the box for the 177bhp engine,which takes it up to 210bhp.

after agh mentioned the spider box,im thinking hard about getting one,simply because of insurance reasons,as i can just take it off,remaps are better i know but they still offer a similar gain to the box's,and by all accounts the spider is a bit more advanced than the other box's,and again they are interchangable,and 195bhp is enough for me,and i said i would'nt play around with the engine on this car.
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Postby agh » Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:42:51 UTC

tinka wrote:spider have the box for the 177bhp engine,which takes it up to 210bhp.

after agh mentioned the spider box,im thinking hard about getting one,simply because of insurance reasons,as i can just take it off,remaps are better i know but they still offer a similar gain to the box's,and by all accounts the spider is a bit more advanced than the other box's,and again they are interchangable,and 195bhp is enough for me,and i said i would'nt play around with the engine on this car.


Tempting isn't it. [;)] though if I did fit one I'd tell the insurance company. The fuel consumption improvement gIzze reported (he has on on his 163bhp 120d) was quite considerable and better than anyone has reported with any re-map. 195bhp is plenty, especially if the torque spread well through the rev range. Peak power isn't everything!
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Postby 320td » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:14:38 UTC

I'm confused, is the Spider box the same as the RaidHP? I was offered the RaidHP for around £385 which seems alot. The only thing is my 520d (177) will come with a DPF. I had loads of issues with the DPF getting blocked up every 200 miles with the chip in my Audi and the only way to make it regenerate itself was to take the chip out and blast it on the motorway. I think I learnt the hard way as the first time it happened I just took it out on the motorway and the whole car went into limp home mode, which was not fun.....Audi had to take the car in for a forced regenertaion.

P.s Who and where can I get a Spider box from please?

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Postby tinka » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:46:37 UTC

just to add a bit more choice,i found this in bmw car last mont,sold via rossiters,http://www.steinbauer.cc/index.php?select_brand=343&select_type=7865&select_engine=16125.
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Postby MatrixD » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:36:36 UTC

320td wrote:P.s Who and where can I get a Spider box from please?

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This is the weblink: http://www.dieseltuning.co.uk/bmw-diesel-tuning.html
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Postby 320td » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:09:24 UTC

Thanks for the ifno, I called them up today but they dont do a tuning box for the 177 only the 163....gutted!!

Let me know if you find out anything on the spider tuning boxes

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Postby tinka » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:31:49 UTC

try these,they have one for the 177bhp version:
http://www.tunit.co.uk/vehicles-supported.php
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Postby 320td » Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:59:02 UTC

Thanks mate, dont worry about having a weblink on your reply as I just cut and paste the address and works fine. Gave T Unit Bham a call who will get back to me soon. Good thing about the TUnit is that it can be re prog for a different car.

The TUNIT cost £480quid supplied and an extra £50 for the fitting.
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Postby tinka » Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:15:15 UTC

i knew this would happen,i want a tuning box now,there are loads around though,im going for a spider or a dt uk one i think.

i wish i did'nt read the thread now.
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Postby 320td » Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:55:56 UTC

Oh well think of it this way, you will say loads of time cos u will get to places quicker.... with time being money it kinda makes sense right???

Let me know which one u go for as I need to do atleast 1k miles in mine b4 thinking on pluging a box in.
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Postby 330d_dan » Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:36:50 UTC

tinka wrote:i knew this would happen,i want a tuning box now,there are loads around though,im going for a spider or a dt uk one i think.

i wish i did'nt read the thread now.


LOL.. :lol:

You wouldn't believe how much money I have spent getting idea's from various forums' members :twisted:
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Postby agh » Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:38:07 UTC

Do the sums, how many miles do you have to drive before the improved fuel economy covers the cost of the tuning box ? :wink:
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Postby tinka » Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:26:57 UTC

and i said i would leave this one standard.

i dont think ill ever recoupe the cost back in fuel,but i should get something back if i take it off before i sell it,one of the benefits i guess.

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been on an assertiveness course today and tomorrow so that might help,although im not so sure,cant decide :lol: .
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