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Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:20:55 UTC

Had an interesting chat with the local constabulary early this morning after two 1M enthusiasts thought they would get round the limited availability by taking mine. Mrs B heard the car window break so we got a look at them and saved the car - this time.

The gizmo they are buying allows them to start a BMW with their own key if they can get access to the OBD port - which smashing the window sorts out nicely it seems.

The West Midlands seems to have been particularly badly hit. There is another thread about a 535d going missing, and they told me that in my locality they had lost 30 top end BMs in the last couple of weeks (although two were recovered in Dover the following day so its not being done for the fun of it).

They believe that it is 2007 and later cars that are affected but a look at YouTube shows devices that are supposed to be able to do 2004-2010 cars, it probably isn't worth stealing an old one when you can have a new one for the same risk.

If you have a BMW worth nicking then it is time to start thinking about non-standard security and where you park it.

Perhaps I should start a separate thread for ideas on what we would like to do to them if we ever get our hands on them. :brucelee:
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby hp88 » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:39:19 UTC

Think this is the second case I have read on here this month, worrying news for you guys with the newer models. Has there been any response from BMW on the increased number of thefts? I am starting to think there might be a problem with the software or possibly one or two computers might have gone missing from their garages.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby jimbob » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:27:41 UTC

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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:29:44 UTC

All a bit hearsay still but it seems that the current gismo will programme a key in situ in about a minute. There are rumours of a software update that fixes the weakness, trying to find out if its true.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:31:23 UTC

jimbob wrote:[email protected] have a look at this website if you are serious about not getting your 1m stolen
then maybe one of there spwcalist window films could help
fit this and an obvious aftermarket steering lock may be the way to go


Good idea. So simple I hadn't even thought of that. :oops:
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Fossicker » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:45:47 UTC

I hope 2012 cars are OK or I may have to clear my garage out!
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Postby pedroraf1 » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:42:07 UTC

I use a stoplock pro across the steering wheel as a visible deterent on my e46. Having driven fully armoured vehicles in my 22 years of military life I'm liking the idea of the window film available in the link above as you will not have to put up with heavy doors that are associated with armoured glass, due to the film being thin.

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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:53:18 UTC

Fossicker wrote:I hope 2012 cars are OK or I may have to clear my garage out!


It doesn't seem to be the age of the car as much as the age of the model, the ones with new shape keys (F30 etc) I'm told don't havethe problem.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby seadooxp » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:16:30 UTC

For reference - the 535d that went was a 56 Plate with the push button start.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby ryandoc » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:29:37 UTC

This is getting ridiculous BMW need to fix this I'm worried about this now and have decided to do atleast something to try to stop or atleast make difficult an attempt.

I never ever jump on band wagons but there's a problem here. Why don't we start a seperate thread dedicated to ideas and things we can do such as films and steering locks etc.

Glad to hear the 1M wasn't taken bunch of lowlifes.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby DieselMpower » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:13:01 UTC

ryandoc wrote:This is getting ridiculous BMW need to fix this I'm worried about this now and have decided to do atleast something to try to stop or atleast make difficult an attempt.

I never ever jump on band wagons but there's a problem here. Why don't we start a seperate thread dedicated to ideas and things we can do such as films and steering locks etc.

Glad to hear the 1M wasn't taken bunch of lowlifes.


Might be a silly question as I am not to clued up when it comes to insurance, if a car gets stolen and you payed 20k for it 3 months ago is there a percentage that the insurance company payout.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:59:21 UTC

The best policies pay new replacement cost for cars less than a year old.

After that they should pay the cost of buying an identical replacement (age & mileage) but in practice they offer as low as they can and its up to you to prove it should be higher.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby plowy » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:08:49 UTC

Think I'll keep my old duffer... [:D]
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:14:07 UTC

plowy wrote:Think I'll keep my old duffer... [:D]


Are we still talking cars? [:D]
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby plowy » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:23:35 UTC

And Old duffers............ Chris.... :P
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby krupp stahl » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:32:22 UTC

May I suggest a Clutch Claw? I use one of these on my Defender - as do many others. Defenders have little inherent security and are nicked frequently, so you have to rely on mechanical locks to put them off/slow them down.

This device basically clamps my clutch and brake pedals so that they cannot be moved.

If these parasites are geared up technically, perhaps a good old fashioned lump of steel clamped into the foot well will slow them down a bit?

Just a suggestion.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:32:59 UTC

plowy wrote:And Old duffers............ Chris.... :P


THANKS, pal. :roll:

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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:39:56 UTC

jimbob wrote:[email protected] have a look at this website if you are serious about not getting your 1m stolen
then maybe one of their specialist window films could help


To come back to jimbob's point, how would a film stand up on a pillarless door?

Once the glass was shattered wouldn't it fold enough to be able to get inside? I removed my shattered window by sticking a piece of vinyl onto it and it was certainly strong in one direction but it folds inwards quite easily.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby Blingo » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:42:05 UTC

Blingo wrote:There are rumours of a software update that fixes the weakness, trying to find out if its true.


It looks like this isn't true, no official update is available to cure the problem.
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Re: Theft of late BMWs - WARNING

Postby seadooxp » Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:53:27 UTC

Blingo - I called in to Sytner in Birmingham when I left work tonight to ask the same thing about the software update.

THERE IS NO SOFTWARE UPDATE WHICH ERADICATES THE OBD ISSUE AND IT BEING EASILY USED TO CLONE A NEW KEY.

Sytner rep was honest and said they were well aware of the problem and they are awaiting a steer from BMW UK, but there is nothing that can be done from a dealer end to reduce the risk.

Their honest advice was keep the car in a position/place that makes the taking more difficult and use other visible deterrents such as Diskloks etc.

I also asked about blocking off the remaining 8 keys slots from the assigned 10 (vehicle currently has 2 keys). They cannot guarantee this would work either.

So - dealers are as much at the behest of BMW for a fix for this as we are.

So - anyone got a cheap Disklok for sale?! :|
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